Thursday, May 22, 2008


The purpose of “growandknow” since I started the blog in January 2008,
out of frustration that very few I knew in my family or out, was interested in
discovering the TRUTH OF GOD.......was to reach out to those who have ears to
hear and eyes to see in the world, who have been lied to by Satan’s false and counterfeit churches and denominations in TWO MAIN AREAS:

(1) The End Times , and
(2) What is the True Gospel ?

If one does not have a grasp about the truth about the end times, the days
we are now living, one will be completely in THE DARK about what is really
going on in the world ! If people have been lied to their whole lives, about what the true Gospel is, then they are not as saved as they might other wise believe,
and end up learning the hard way in the SOON COMING TRIBULATION.

It is my desire to be one that builds on the foundation that Jesus laid through
knowledge of what the Scriptures literally say. We are warned in Hosea that
God says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. God be my Judge
in the Bema Judgement, whether or not my efforts to reach out to others were built
with precious materials or hay and stubble to be burned up.

Since January 2008, my fellow servants have both praised my efforts for
Christ Jesus and beat me severely with their tongues. Believe me, each stripe
I received did hurt me in real time. I have been informed by loved ones that I
now have a reputation of spending too much time on the computer..(about two
hours a day) , since starting “growandknow” ....Awe shucks....I guess I have missed the boat spending so much time studying God’s Word ! Maybe I should have spent all that time watching old re-runs of American Idol, or Desperate
House Wives, or Oprah, or 24 Hours, or the Three Stooges. Then I would be loved by the World......NOT !!! I didn’t even play one game of computer Texas Holdem. If I had spent all that time playing computer poker, I doubt it that I would have been noticed. I am very sorry for that, but I haven chosen to sit at the feet of Jesus and grow in faith and knowledge rather then
sit at the seat of Satan in front of the boob tube soaking in the cares of this world.

I pray that at least one or more or hundreds more from around the world will be “SNATCHED” completely out of the very time of the Tribulation, and receive
valuable knowledge from god’s Word leading to their Salvation.

My first post in January 2008, was about “The Rapture..Which Is Right ?” ....Pre-Trib,
Mid-Trib, Post Trib, or Pan Trib. I still feel Pre-Trib is most correct. At the end of this current post, there is a list of all my posts so far. I started “growandknow” in January, and started keeping track of hits in February.

COMING FULL CIRCLE....and growing and knowing much more since then,
I have discovered that each group is partly right and partly wrong. The following is why I believe each is wrong and right.


Dear Doves,


RAPTURE #1 IS PRE-TRIBULATION: it is the First-Fruits rapture of the Christian Gentile believers of the Church in Philadelphia.

Rev 3:8 &10
"I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an OPEN DOOR that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.
Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also KEEP YOU FROM THE HOUR OF TRIAL that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the Earth."
(These Christians will NOT be tested before being raptured while they "live on earth" because they have "endured patiently".)

RAPTURE #2 IS MID-TRIBULATION BUT PRE-WRATH OF GOD: it is the rapture of the lukewarm Christian Gentiles of the Church in Laodicea.

Rev 3:18
"I counsel you to BUY FROM ME GOLD REFINED IN THE FIRE, so you can BECOME RICH; and (buy from Me) WHITE CLOTHES TO WEAR, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and (buy from Me) salve to put on your eyes SO YOU CAN SEE.

1 Peter 5:10
"And the God of all Grace, who called you to His eternal Glory in Christ, AFTER YOU HAVE SUFFERED A LITTLE WHILE, will Himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast."
(These lukewarm Christians will "suffer a little while" on earth and "be tested while living on the earth" as they are "refined in the fire" by buying "gold", "white clothes" and "salve" from Jesus during the first part of the tribulation.) They are described in the next verse:

Rev 7:13-14
(Those who are NOT "accounted worthy" to be included in the First Gentile Rapture, will have a second chance to make the Second Gentile Rapture which occurs during the first-half of the tribulation. The "full number of Gentiles will come in" at this rapture.)

RAPTURE #3 IS POST-TRIBULATION: it is the rapture of the Jewish converts to Christianity during the time of 'Jacobs Trouble' which is the second-half of the seven-year tribulation after "the full number of Gentiles has come in" and God turns His complete and undivided attention to saving all Israel.
There will be no Gentiles included in this rapture because the Gentiles who are not "accounted worthy" to be included in the Second Gentile rapture will have received the "delusion from God' and "the gospel will be veiled to them".
Come Lord Jesus!
Bruce Warner



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5/22/08 By Brother Mark

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5/21/08 by Brother Mark

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5/19/08 by Brother Mark

1 comment 5/17/08 by Brother Mark

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1 comment 5/16/08 by Brother Mark

The First Seal
3 comments 5/13/08 by Brother Mark

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2 comments 5/12/08 by Brother Mark

Watching The Signs of The Times
5/10/08 by Brother Mark

Opposite of Council of Trent You Are Saved
2 comments 5/8/08 by Brother Mark

5/2/08 by Brother Mark

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5/1/08 by Brother Mark

Suddenly No More Time
5/1/08 by Brother Mark
True Revival
5/1/08 by Brother Mark
Pre-Millennialism and the Early Church Fathers
4/30/08 by Brother Mark

Jewish Feast Days and Sabbatical Year
2 comments 4/28/08 by Brother Mark

Things I've Learned From The Holy Spirit Part 1
4/28/08 by Brother Mark

Bible Prophecy No Joke
4/27/08 by Brother Mark
In God We Still Trust
4/25/08 by Brother Mark

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4/24/08 by Brother Mark

Thou, Thee, The World, And Them
4/24/08 by Brother Mark

4/24/08 by Brother Mark

Jonah's Death, Burial And Resurrection
4/23/08 by Brother Mark
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4/23/08 by Brother Mark

Al's Lies and The Really Inconvenient Truth
4/22/08 by Brother Mark

God Sets The Time Paul Sets Us Straight
4/21/08 by Brother Mark
The Rise of Counterfeit Christianity
4 comments 4/20/08 by Brother Mark

Replacement Theology
1 comment 4/17/08 by Brother Mark

In Defense Of The Pope
1 comment 4/17/08 by Brother Mark

Distinction Between Israel And The Church
4/16/08 by Brother Mark

"I am that I am. Tell them that I AM sent you."
2 comments 4/15/08 by Brother Mark

1 comment 4/14/08 by Brother Mark

They Knew Him Not
4/14/08 by Brother Mark

Shall He Find Faith When He comes At 2nd Coming
1 comment 4/13/08 by Brother Mark

Outside The Camp (Charles H. Spurgeon)
4/11/08 by Brother Mark

Rapture Not Post Trib
4/11/08 by Brother Mark

The Pretrib Rapture
7 comments 4/10/08 by Brother Mark

The Only Sign For Adulterous Generation
3 comments 4/9/08 by Brother Mark

The Remnant
2 comments 3/27/08 by Brother Mark

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1 comment 3/26/08 by Brother Mark

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1 comment 3/25/08 by Brother Mark

Second Coming....A Very Important Study
3/24/08 by Brother Mark

Matthew 24:29-31 EXPLAINED
3/22/08 by Brother Mark

The Year Christ Died And Was Resurrected
3 comments 3/22/08 by Brother Mark

Easter Is The Mother Of Baal
1 comment 3/21/08 by Brother Mark

Church's And America's GREATEST THREAT
3/19/08 by Brother Mark

A Question Of Dates For Crucifiction
1 comment 3/19/08 by Brother Mark

Bible Prophecy and The War Against It
3 comments 3/17/08 by Brother Mark

Unapologetic Apologist
2 comments 3/16/08 by Brother Mark

Easter or Ishtar ?
3 comments 3/14/08 by Brother Mark
Premillennialism View of Church 1st 3 Centuries
1 comment 3/13/08 by Brother Mark

Tribulation........And Its Purpose
3/12/08 by Brother Mark

Truth, Lies, And The Media
3/12/08 by Brother Mark
Palm Sunday Surprise
3/11/08 by Brother Mark

Thanks Be To God For Grace
3/11/08 by Brother Mark

Literal Fulfillment of Bible Prophecy
1 comment 3/10/08 by Brother Mark

Another Gospel
3/9/08 by Brother Mark
Top 10 Reasons Not To Be Christian
1 comment 3/8/08 by Brother Mark

Lord......Prop Me UP
3/6/08 by Brother Mark

Paul Taught Them About "The End Times"
3/4/08 by Brother Mark

Bible....God Breathed Greatest Book Ever
1 comment 3/4/08 by Brother Mark

Your Helmet .....Put It On And Keep It On
1 comment 3/3/08 by Brother Mark
Millennium....Literal or Figurative ?
3/2/08 by Brother Mark

John Mac Arthur Right at 2008 Shepard's Conf
3/2/08 by Brother Mark

Working Out Your Salvation ?
1 comment 3/1/08 by Brother Mark

He Is ever so Close to Coming....Feel It !
2 comments 2/29/08 by Brother Mark

Good Friday ....Tradition of Men
2/28/08 by Brother Mark

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2/26/08 by Brother Mark

More On ...These are Different Events
2/26/08 by Brother Mark
Two Different Things
2 comments 2/26/08 by Brother Mark

Rapture.....Fact or Fiction ?
2/25/08 by Brother Mark

Important Endtime Event
2/25/08 by Brother Mark

What is Amillennialism ?
2/25/08 by Brother Mark

Born Again
2 comments 2/23/08 by Brother Mark

For By Grace.....
2/22/08 by Brother Mark

The Most Dangerous Doctrine
1 comment 2/21/08 by Brother Mark

Getting Your Crown
2/19/08 by Brother Mark

Jesus Is..Lord and Savior
2/18/08 by Brother Mark

Christian Intolerance?
2/18/08 by Brother Mark

The world just can't stand it when you s...

2/18/08 by Brother Mark

Ash Wednesday a Tradition of Men.....
1 comment 2/17/08 by Brother Mark

Modernist Bibles & Endtimes Deception
2 comments 2/15/08 by Brother Mark

Gospel Causes Division
1 comment 2/14/08 by Brother Mark

GOSPEL CAUSES DIVISION "And I will put a div...
2/14/08 by Brother Mark

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2/12/08 by Brother Mark

Behold ....The Lamb of God
1 comment 2/12/08 by Brother Mark

God I s About To Intervene
2/11/08 by Brother Mark

Pre-Wrath Review
4 comments 2/9/08 by Brother Mark

Pre-Wrath....A Very Dead Horse
12 comments 2/8/08 by Brother Mark

For God So Loved.......
2 comments 2/7/08 by Brother Mark

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13 comments 2/5/08 by Brother Mark
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2/5/08 by Brother Mark
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4 comments 2/4/08 by Brother Mark

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4 comments 2/2/08 by Brother Mark

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1 comment 2/2/08 by Brother Mark

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2 comments 2/1/08 by Brother Mark

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1/30/08 by Brother Mark
Eternal Security
1 comment 1/30/08 by Brother Mark

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1/29/08 by Brother Mark

The Other Side of the Debate
1/28/08 by Brother Mark

What is so Great About Being Here at 2nd Coming?
1/28/08 by Brother Mark

Times of The Signs
7 comments 1/24/08 by Brother Mark

The Times of the Signs
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5 comments 1/23/08 by Brother Mark

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1/23/08 by Brother Mark

Has Prophecy Already Been Fulfilled? 1/21/08 by Brother Mark

Has Prophecy Already Been Fulfilled?
4 comments 1/21/08 by Brother Mark

Preterism Is Not Accurate
3 comments 1/21/08 by Brother Mark

Why Pretrib a Rapture ?
2 comments 1/17/08 by Brother Mark

Second Coming is ....Not Same As Rapture!
1 comment 1/16/08 by Brother Mark

Lead Me Not Into Temptation ...what that means...
3 comments 1/13/08 by Brother Mark

Who Do You Trust to Save you?
1/13/08 by Brother Mark

Know About The Times We Live In
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Accept His Accomplishment for YOU
12/19/07 by Brother Mark

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12/19/07 by Brother Mark

Day or Hour Part II
2 comments 12/13/07 by Brother Mark

Day or Hour - What is it? Part I
12/13/07 by Brother Mark

12/12/07 by Brother Mark

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False Religion Equals False Gospel
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12/5/07 by Brother Mark

Ray Stedman has put out a lot of strong scriptural...
2 comments 12/5/07 by Brother Mark

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Given55 said...

Keep up the good work. You are a blessing.

Anonymous said...

Though I don't fully agree with you on the Rapture, I am blessed by your ministry because there's much we agree on -- especially on how many Christians today are led astray and need to know the Truth as set out in God's Word!

Keep up the great work, my good brother. The Lord bless you and the ministry!


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