Friday, May 8, 2009
A Time For No More Pain
Talk about the most controversial topic in the universe....and IT is HELL !
Many have their opinions about hell, but what does the Scripture actually say?
CLEARLY... THE BIBLE DEFINES ITS OWN WORDS LIKE "ETERNAL LIFE"
AND THE OPPOSITE OF ETERNAL LIFE ....."death"..........Believe it or not...
the Bible does not always describe forever as "FOREVER"
This is how scripture says it, not the worn out "TRADITIONS OF MEN AND PAGAN STORIES FROM DANTE.
Behold The Day Burning Like An Oven
Those who reject God’s wonderful plan for forgiveness of sin and the
gift of eternal life, will have their “part” in a lake which burns with fire and
brimstone: which is the “second death”.
All unrepentant of the fearful, and unbelieving, and the discusting (ones),
and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and the lying
ones, shall have their “part” in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone.
There are those that have a different “part” in hell depending on their
circumstances. Let me explain what the Word says. Rev. 21:8
Everlasting fire is the devil and demons “part” in hell. This lake was originally planned to be prepared for the devil and his fallen angels. Matt 25:41
The Beast and false prophet, will also be cast alive into a lake burning with
fire and brimstone.
This all takes place in the future, after 1000 years of Christ rule over
His Kingdom, He will set up on earth. At the 2nd resurrection and great white
thrown judgement, some will find their “part” in the flames of hell.
Notice that Satan and his fallen angels are eternal spirit beings, but,mortals who
reject Christ’s offer of forgiveness, do not have eternal life and are not born
with it. THERE ARE ONLY 2 CHOICES...GAIN THE FREE GIFT OF ETERNAL...
OR remain dead spiritually and eventually die (never gaining eternal life)
They forfeit the great offer of eternal life when they reject Christ’s offer of
free Pardon. We can choose heaven and eternal life by humbly accepting the
offer of pardon extended to us, knowing it is not something we earned, cannot earn, and cannot buy or steal.
A soul, a living being, cannot possibly live forever in hell, if one rejects Christ’s Covenant offer of eternal life with a free Pardon. If we reject Salvation, we will reap the result of sin which is the 2nd death.
Our choice is clearly eternal life or eternal death: the second death. Paul said, “the lost will be punished with everlasting what?......
Torment in hell’s flames in horrible pain forever? ......No!
Paul said they would be punished with “everlasting destruction.” II Thes 1:9
The soul that sins shall “die”. Ezk 18:4 God said He will not take pleasure in
seeing what?.....Souls dancing and crying in torture of hell forever?....
No again! He takes no pleasure in seeing the wicked die. II Pet 3:29
Jesus came that we may have eternal life. That means we didn’t have
eternal life before He came. John 5:40
What the wicked gets in the end, is to be “dead and gone”!
The end of the wicked is “destruction”, “annihilation”, “eternal destruction”
The soul that sins (without God’s forgiveness) get death. Ezk 18:4
How can Christians possibly project a deity of such “cruelty” and
“vindictiveness” as to inflict everlasting torture upon His creatures, however
sinful they may have been?
Unfortunately, the religious tradition of men of the traditional belief in unending torment in hell, is based more on pagan philosophy than a correct
understanding of Scripture. The misguided understanding of hell has undeniably left a lasting imprint on the “religious” imagination.
We can give much of the credit, not to Scripture, but to the poet Dante who
wrote the infamous ‘ Devine Comedy” in the 14th century. Very figurative language indeed. The Roman Catholic Church ran with the idea to strike fear
into the flock and take money from the people to supposedly buy poor lost
souls from purgatory or hell. This sad, unbiblical practice, is still going on to this very day.
The belief in a “soul” that goes to hell is based in a misguided understanding of what a “ soul” actually is. Many confuse the word for soul with spirit.
The word for body in Scripture is “soma”
The word for “soul” is “Nephesh” in OT, and “Psyche” in NT
The word for “spirit” is “ruach” in OT.
A person does not have a “ soul” in them, he is a “soul”. The word “soul”
in the Bible means “air breathing being”.
And God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a “nephesh” an “air breathing
living being”. Gen 2:7
So, the “air breathing living being” a “soul” or “nephesh”,that sins shall die.
When the poor soul breaths his last breath, his body or “soma” will decay
to dust in his grave.
Man does have a spirit. This is called the spirit of man. It goes back to God
at death from where it came. If a man, a living being or soul,
accepts the Covenant from God for forgiveness of his sins, one’s spirit is then seated in Heavenly places and he has now gained eternal life at that point in his life. If you reject God’s plan of Salvation, then you are yet in
your sins and have no eternal life and subject to death after the 2nd resurrection to flesh, to stand before God at the Great White Throne
Judgment. Rev 20:11-15
Jesus said, “Fear him who can cast both soul and body in hell.”
Fear him who can cast both the air breathing being and body in hell and...DESTROY
THEM BOTH ! did you get that?.....Matt. 10:28
"28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to lill the SOUL: ....
but RATHER fear him which is able to DESTROY both SOUL and BODY in hell! My point of this
article well made by Jesus!
He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing in Him should
not “perish” but (the opposite of perish) have eternal life. John 3:16
At the end of it all, the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is
everlasting life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Jesus said, “if your right eye offend thee, pluck it out, for it is profitable
for thee that one of thy members should “perish” and not the whole body
(in other words perish) cast into hell.
After the 1000 years of the Kingdom of God on the earth, there will be
a 2nd resurrection of all who ever lived, but who were not saved by God
at the first resurrection to eternal life. John 5:28-29
If their name is not written in the Book of Life, they will be judged by God &
cast into the burning lake of fire by God’s Holy Angels. The mortal soul’s
“part” in hell is to simply “perish”, to go into everlasting destruction,
to burn into ashes.
Just before being cast into the flames to die and perish forever, the flames
will feel very hot to the judged, standing near the fire and brimstone. The rich man that woke up after his resurrection with all the other unsaved,
will feel tormented from the great flames nearby. The lost will be in
anguish about what is to about to happen and there will be much weeping
and gnashing of teeth.
David said some would awake to eternal life and others to shame and
everlasting contempt. They were judged by God to die the 2nd death
and forever , never be aloud to be resurrected back to life again. In time,
it will be as though they never were! After the 2nd death, the dead know
These will go away to “eternal punishment” ....eternally dead.
But in contrast the righteous to eternal life. Matt 25:46
Finally, the earth will have served its purpose, and having served that purpose,”shall be dissolved and the elements shall melt with fervent heat”.
II Peter 3:12
After Satan and his demons are banished to hell forever, probably at the center of the earth or some far away star, the cosmos diabolicus gives
way to a new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
II peter 3:13
At this time, the righteous will walk on the mortal burned ashes of those
burned in the fire and brimstone and thus perished. (Evidence thereof)
The Great Day of God
For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven.
And all the proud, yes all who do wickedly will be like “stubble”.
And the day which is coming shall “burn them up.”
Says the Lord of hosts,
That will leave them neither root nor branch.
But to “you who fear my name”
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings;
And you shall go out and grow (in truth and knowledge)
fat like stall fed calves.
You shall trample the wicked under the souls of your feet.
(That my friend is the ultimate end of the wicked) ...not to be tortured
forever and ever in burning flames!
As for that “worms that never die”, only God can give fitting names to
those that the shoe fits like Satan the Great lying dragon that snake.
He’s just a “worm” that will forever stay in hell and never die !
The Day Burning like An Oven (Part II) Part 1 was 11-19-06
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
Where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night
(for ever and ever).
Remember reading in school, in history, about the people of the great city of Palmpay?
They were over run by a volcano of fire and brimstone and burned up into ashes. This is similar to what happened to Sodom an Gomorrah. Remember Lot? God warned the righteous before raining down fire and brimstone from heaven. The city was devoured and smoke went up like a furnace.
Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth
for an example, suffering the vengeance of .....eternal fire....What?!
It says eternal fire, and Sodom and Gomorrah are not still burning today, because
eternity is not up. Sodom and Gomorrah were an example of what will happen to the
wicked in the future, when the wicked will be destroyed in hell fire. They are presently
reserved unto judgement, waiting in their graves to be resurrected in the final judgement after the 1000 years of Christ’s rule on earth.
John 12:48 The same shall judge him on the last day.
I Cor 15:22-23 As everyone dies because of Adam, so shall everyone be made alive
because of Christ. 23- This will happen to each person in his own order,
Christ the first, then at his coming, those that belong to him will be made
Matt 13:40-42 The tares are gathered by the angels and burned at the end of the world
(at the end of the age) and cast into the fire.
42- People will be in extreme pain there. ( Just before they perish in the flames
and die the second death). Death that is FINAL, and judged to never be
brought back to life in some resurrection sometime in the future.
Spoken by God to be an eternal judgement, never revoked. Eternally DEAD!
There is to be a lake of fire where the wicked are to be punished. That lake of fire, hell,
is not burning as yet. The last resurrection and the last judgement has not taken place. It is
yet future, and so is hell fire. So people cannot be dead and in a hell fire right now, as the
RCC and the Pope say.
Just where are the wicked dead right now? John 5:28 tells us.
28- Don’t be surprised at what I’ve just said. A time is coming when all the dead will
Hear his voice. (Each in their own order)
29- and they will come out of their tombs. Those who have done good will come back to life
and live and live(after the Rapture - resurrection of the dead in Christ).
29–cont. But those who have done evil will come back to life (after the 1000 years)
and will be judged. GW version
Job 21:30-32 Reserved unto the day of (DESTRUCTION)( not burning in hell flames forever)
brought to the grave and remain in the tomb.
Rev. 20 The rest of the dead , the wicked in their graves, remain there until 1000 years are finished and the Great White Throne Judgement.
What is the reward for sin? Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is DEATH. Says what it means
and means what it says! There are 2 and only 2 options:
1. LIFE OR 2. DEATH! John 3:16 Perish or have everlasting life.
DID JESUS PAY THE FULL PRICE FOR SIN?!!!
Is the price for sin death or eternal roasting in hells flames? Yet a little while and the wicked shall not be: (CONSUMED, DEVOURED, PERISH, BE NO MORE!)
What will happen to the wicked in hell fire? Ps 37:10 The wicked shall be NOT.
Ps. 37:20 They shall consume away into smoke. Mal 4:1-3 They shall be ashes under the
Soles of your feet.(At the time when the earth has been burned up, and the wicked
Mal 4:1-3 Certainly the day is coming! It will burn like a furnace. (ALL) arrogant people
and (ALL) evildoers will be (like) straw. The day that is coming will BURN them
COMPLETELY, “says the Lord of Armies. “It won’t leave a single root or branch
2- The Sun of Righteousness will rise with healing in his wings for you people
who fear my name. You will go out and leap like calves let out of the stall.
3- You will trample on wicked people (their dead ashes that is)
because on the day I act they will be ashes under the soles of your feet,
(You the Righteous ones) says the Lord of Armies. GW version. KJV
reads just as well in all versus here.
Unquenchable means not extinguished . Quench is a VERB. Jer 17:27
But if you (JEWS) will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire
in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the Palaces of Jerusalem, and.....
IT SHALL NOT BE QUENCHED. That fire did happen in history, but it is not still burning.
In just the same manner, the fires of hell will be unquenchabe. There will be no firemen
in hell going around and quenching the flames of hell. They will not be quenched. or put out.
The flames will just burn until there is nothing else on earth to burn, including the wicked.
II peter 3:10 - 13
Will the devil be in charge of hell? No! He is thrown into the lake of fire!
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
where the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night (for ever and ever).
Matt 3:12 Whose fan is in His hand, and He will throughly purge His floor, and gather
His wheat into the garner (barn) but he will BURN UP the chaff with
UNQUENCHABLE FIRE. (In other words, no firemen will be able to
PUT OUT the fire and save any of the wicked.
Jonah 2:6 I went down into the bottoms of the mountains; (in death) the earth with her bars was
about me (like the dead were in prison and saved by Christ after his resurrection)
(And he took the captive to himself when he went up to heaven 40 days after
His resurrection on First Fruits.)...forever: (no, 3 days later he was brought back
and spit up on the shore by the great fish.) Yet hast thou brought up my life from
corruption , (always means decaying in death) , O Lord my God.
A Hebrew slave served 6 years under his master and set free at the end of that time. If the slave liked his master, then he could choose to continue to serve him for ever = rest of his life.
I Sam Little Samuel was given by his mother to the Priesthood for him to serve there for ever=
Job Shall mortal man be more merciful then God?
You may have had a pet you loved and cared for very much. One day the pet
got very sick or had a condition where it was suffering greatly, but there was
Nothing that could ever be done to make the pet better or stop suffering so.
Out of extreme love for the pet, you had no choice but to have it put down
By the vet. Are you more merciful then God? There will be sinners so vile
And miserable is sin that they will not accept Christ’s forgiveness, even when
they stand before Him!
God will deal with the wicked as an act of LOVE. A love far greater then our own.
He will mercifully end the wicked for ever. He would not have the unrepentant, sinner
go on into eternity suffering in such a horrible state. He will do as He said!
The wicked will not be, SAYS THEY WILL NOT BE: = ANYWHERE HEAVEN OR HELL)
FOREVER AND EVER
And FINALLY ALL THINGS WILL BE COME NEW, FOR THE OLD THINGS WIL HAVE PAST AWAY:
And god will wipe away all tears from there eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, (THESE DISCRIPTIONS SOUND LIKE THE TORMENT MOST SAY WILL BE FOR THOSE IN HELL.....BUT THE LORD SAYS THESE THINGS WILL BE NO MORE !!!!!!! neither shall
there be ANY MORE PAIN-PAIN-PAIN-PAIN-PAIN-PAIN-PAIN (I BELIEVE ANYWHERE = HEAVEN OR HELL) ..SAYS HERE NO MORE PAIN)...................................
FOR THE FORMER THINGS ARE (PAST AWAY) =
GONE AWAY...LIKE DEAD MEANS DEAD ...KAPUT
*****OH YEAH.....AS FOR THE WORM THAT NEVER DIES....
The Bible does give evidence that the term "worm" is talking about man.
It also describes that people will be punished according to their evil works
in different severity according to their sins. Hitler would endure a
little more punishment before the God whom Hitler should have feared..
does what he said he could do....DESTROY BOTH THE BODY AND SOUL IN HELL.
When all sinners are consumed, destroyed, and will be "NO MORE" AS Scripture says
after this..all things will BECOME NEW. THE OLD PAST AWAY.
THERE WILL THEN BE NO MORE PAIN